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Anonymous. - 10/25/2007 I saw three different groups of believers (star glory: 30-fold; moon: 60-fold; sun: 100-fold) and we had to decide which pathway we all wanted to take. There was a very huge boulder or rock, like what you see in a mountain. (Representing Jesus and the Kingdom of God.) There were three pathways to choose from to go to the other side. The first was to take a pathway around the rock, which looked fairly flat, on level sandy ground. This pathway looked off-white, exactly like the sand you see on a beach. (The easy way on the flesh is not the crucified life and may not bear fruit much beyond 30-fold or star glory. It is from this place that many will fall away. This may represent the born-again in spirit, but not completely crucified in the soul, life. Many avoid fiery trials that burn up the flesh by not walking in the steps of Jesus. The garment for such an individual if they did not fall away would be off-white, reflecting their works. To many the rock is too great to hope to walk on reflecting their immature understanding of the Gospel and God's plan of recreating Christ in us. These choose the unstable, impure, off-white sand of man's traditions on which to stand.) The second path was to climb up that rock. The steps were carved out of the rock and it was a steep and high climb. (This represents walking in the steps already set in stone by the Word, which is also standing on the rock of Christ's Word. This will bear more fruit even to 60-fold or moon glory but something important is not emphasized on this path.) The third path was to enter into a very narrow opening into that rock and walk down steep steps also carved out of the rock. (This is also standing on the rock in the steps of the Word. It suggests more the abiding in the cleft of the rock of safety by entering into Christ's suffering through death to self, spiritually beneath the earth. Through this method we can transverse the fullness of moon glory and enter 100-fold or Sun glory, Christ-likeness.) We were all outside that rock, looking at these 3 paths and deciding which pathway to take. This place had grass and trees and was flourishing and not barren. The pathway into the rock was directly in front of us. The pathway climbing the rock was to my left (from the rock's perspective it would have been right [those who walk more as sheep on Jesus' right]) and the pathway going around the rock was to my right (from the rock's perspective it would have been left [those who walk more as goats on Jesus' left]). Both these were detours to the straight pathway into the rock. (This is God's perfect will -- His chosen path, which few will find.) We could view all believers taking the different pathways. The vast majority turned to my right (the rock's left) because that way seemed bright, flat and sure, which could be easily negotiated. ("There is a way that seemeth right unto man" but is really left unto God. Many are comfortable with the worldly "Christian" life where discipleship is considered unobtainable and something that has passed away.) There were some turning to my left to climb the rock. Again it was bright and the steps seemed visibly carved out from the rock, though the ascent was very steep and the height was frightening. (This is the life of faith without the emphasis of the crucified life.) However, the pathway into the rock was not as visible as the pathway outside; it seemed the scariest. (Because it represents self being swallowed up by the life of Christ through death to the old man and walking by faith.) I saw one believer from my church wearing white, calling me to follow her. Most took the pathway around the rock, whilst there were very few people who climbed on top of the rock or went into the rock. (It is always a few who take the best paths.) The believer from my church started climbing the rock. I did not follow her but went into the rock. (We cannot follow others' individual path or that of churches. God has a scriptural plan for each of us.) One could not see the steps before you -- you had to descend by faith, but as you descended it got easier and I remember thinking that from the outside it looked like a difficult, narrow, dark and unknown pathway, but when you walk by faith God's grace is sufficient to hold your footing in the steep decent. I felt tremendous confidence and joy whilst going on my journey; it was not scary. (The more we die the easier life becomes because we have more of Christ and less of us.) This path was not taken by most people and the dream ended here. The two paths: to the right of the rock mountain and into the rock mountain. Both point out scriptural needs in our life and paths in which the most glorious will major. The easy path of star glory is the one the greatest falling away will come from. {Rev.6:13} and the stars of the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs when she is shaken of a great wind. When I shared this interpretation with ["Anonymous"] she had just received this confirmation from the Lord: "I too was told that this is the 30-fold pathway where a lot of people will fall".
[ audio ] Pamela Orr - given late winter or early spring 2015 (David's notes in red) Pamela's introduction: I am typing this dream from memory, but that's not a problem because it was a very memorable experience. When I originally gave this dream and testimony, I used index cards that I did not file. I remember some of the verses the Father gave me at that time, but not all of them. Please note that others who have had similar dreams were not present at this meeting or privy to hearing this dream. In other words, all of these climbing/entering the rock dreams were independently given by the Father. When I talked to the brethren that night in the basement gathering place at a house that we've now vacated, I emphasized the part of the dream about 'being above it all', that {Eph.2:6} He raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places, in Christ Jesus... and that we are {1:21) far above all rule, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come... I emphasized that part for two reasons: Firstly, we were heavily coming against the chemtrails threat. Secondly, the part about entering the rock was very difficult to describe, so I gave it less emphasis than it merited. Here's the dream: I was climbing a rock that was also a mountain. (Jesus is the Rock and the mountain or Kingdom of God. Jesus is Mt. Zion into which the Bride will enter and be one with Him. On Mt. Zion is the presence of God, the Man-child David and the Bride. Climbing represents coming closer and closer to this goal by overcoming obstacles and hindrances to the Word in us. Climbing a mountain is in many cases considered a place of safety and so it is in this case.) The ledge was narrow and close. {Mat.7:14} For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it. (The way is as narrow as the Word restrains our actions. Those whose actions are not conformed to the Word are not climbing this mountain.) There was one place that I had just come from that had lots of pebbles, like loose debris. I could hear pebbles skittering off the edge, echoing, like they were going down, almost forever. I felt my heart kind of skip a beat. (I have known people who were climbing this mountain through faith but stumbled at the rock, being disobedient, and fell away. {Rom.9:30} What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, who followed not after righteousness, attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith: {31} but Israel, following after a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. {32} Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by works. They stumbled at the stone of stumbling; {33} even as it is written, Behold, I lay in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offence: And he that believeth on him shall not be put to shame. {Joh.6:28} They said therefore unto him, What must we do, that we may work the works of God? {29} Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. {Eph.2:8} for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; {9} not of works, that no man should glory. Condemnation is generally the devil's way of bringing us under law to our own works which brings no faith or fruit. God's way is repent and believe and He will give you grace to climb the mountain.) I thought briefly about turning back, but it seemed like a bad idea. {Heb.10:38} But my righteous one shall live by faith: And if he shrink back, my soul hath no pleasure in him. {39} But we are not of them that shrink back unto perdition; but of them that have faith unto the saving of the soul. When I arrived at what seemed to be nearly the peak, I rested my back on the mountain, while my face looked skyward. I was so high that I was above the clouds. (Climbing Zion represents the height of obedience, which is also the height of sanctification and safety. {Psa.125:1} A Song of Ascents. They that trust in Jehovah Are as mount Zion, which cannot be moved, but abideth for ever. {2} As the mountains are round about Jerusalem, So Jehovah is round about his people From this time forth and for evermore. {3} For the sceptre of wickedness shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; That the righteous put not forth their hands unto iniquity. {4} Do good, O Jehovah, unto those that are good, And to them that are upright in their hearts. {5} But as for such as turn aside unto their crooked ways, Jehovah will lead them forth with the workers of iniquity. Peace be upon Israel. {15:1} A Psalm of David. Jehovah, who shall sojourn in thy tabernacle? Who shall dwell in thy holy hill? {2} He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, And speaketh truth in his heart; {3} He that slandereth not with his tongue, Nor doeth evil to his friend, Nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbor; {4} In whose eyes a reprobate is despised, But who honoreth them that fear Jehovah; He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not; {5} He that putteth not out his money to interest, Nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved. {24:3} Who shall ascend into the hill of Jehovah? And who shall stand in his holy place? {4} He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; Who hath not lifted up his soul unto falsehood, And hath not sworn deceitfully. {5} He shall receive a blessing from Jehovah, And righteousness from the God of his salvation. {6} This is the generation of them that seek after him, That seek thy face, even Jacob. [Selah] Considering the many threats, temptations and obstacles that are ahead, we need to abide in Christ, the secret place of the Most High. {1Jn.2:24} As for you, let that abide in you which ye heard from the beginning. If that which ye heard from the beginning abide in you, ye also shall abide in the Son, and in the Father. {2Jn.9} Whosoever goeth onward and abideth not in the teaching of Christ, hath not God: he that abideth in the teaching, the same hath both the Father and the Son. Judgment is at the door; repent of sin against the Word and believe.) I never even saw any ground. It was all rock and sky. (This represents that worldly temptations are left behind. I am crucified with Christ.) I remember thinking, "Nothing can affect me here". {Gal.2:20} I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me: and that life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the faith which is in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me. {5:24} And they that are of Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with the passions and the lusts thereof. (Again, this was the part that I tried most to communicate to the brethren that night.) I was "in heavenly places" and "far above all rule, and authority, and power", as the Word says. But then the 'twilight zone' part happened. I felt the urge to turn and sort of 'fall into' or embrace the rock face. {Mat.21:43} Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God ... shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. {44} And he that falleth on this stone shall be broken to pieces... I extended my arms out as I turned 180 degrees, as if I were going to hug something really huge. This was when it was as if the rock absorbed me. (The ultimate end of the climb of sanctification by the Word is to be one with God and to be one with our brethren in Him.) It was something like one of those old movies where a wall somehow opens up to reveal a secret door. Then, in the blink of an eye, the door and person disappears. In the movies they've gone somewhere mysterious. This is like what happened. When this occurred, I thought, "Why do I want to go into this rock?" My natural mind wanted to tell me that it would be dark and uncomfortable. But that is what I wanted and that is what happened. I embraced the rock and it was as if a secret chasm or door cracked open to take me in. {Joh.10:9} I am the door; by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and go out, and shall find pasture. {Mat.10:39} He that findeth his life shall lose it; and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. {Joh.12:25} He that loveth his life loseth it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. End of dream. Final thought and prayer: The night that I gave this dream/testimony, I tried to demonstrate the last part to our group, failing miserably at the attempt to demonstrate a rock mountain absorbing a person. In our natural minds, this seems like a nightmare or a B-rated movie. But in the dream it felt perfect and right. (Because this path brings us to the joy and peace of a cleansed conscience. It brings us to serve God because of love of Him, rather than just fear of Him, which is "the beginning of wisdom" but not the end of it.) Father, thank You for giving this dream to us and helping us to understand what You are saying. Your Son is perfect and right. And we thank You for our being in Him. From Isaiah, I am reminded of a favorite 'rock' passage: {Isa.50:7} For the Lord Jehovah will help me; therefore have I not been confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. {8} He is near that justifieth me; who will content with me? let us stand up together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me. {9} Behold, the Lord Jehovah will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? behold, all they shall wax old as a garment, the moth shall eat them up. {10} Who is among you that feareth Jehovah, that obeyeth the voice of his servant? he that walketh in darkness, and hath no light, let him trust in the name of Jehovah, and rely upon his God. Thank You that Jesus is our Rock and that we will never be put to shame. Because we are in Him, we can turn our faces like flint and never look back. And, lastly, {Job13:15} Behold, he will slay me; I have no hope: Nevertheless I will maintain my ways before him. Thank You, Father. We no longer live, but Christ the Rock lives in us.
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