9/23/17, One Point on a Timeline

(To best understand these verses you should listen to the audio) People are making all kinds of wild claims about the Rev.12 sign in the heavens on September 23rd, 2017. Some put it down saying that no man knows the day or hour. First of all 9/23 doesn't show a day or hour for the coming of the Lord. It is a sign of what is happening or about to happen. The sign in Rev.12:1-6 is a series of events that take time. September 23rd only points to one of those events on the timeline; the birth of the Man-child ministry from Virgo, representing the true Body of Christ. {Rev.12:1} And a great sign was seen in heaven: a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars; {2} and she was with child; and she crieth out, travailing in birth, and in pain to be delivered. {3} And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his heads seven diadems. {4} And his tail draweth the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon standeth before the woman that is about to be delivered, that when she is delivered he may devour her child. {5} And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne. {6} And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

This whole scenario is stretched out over a period of time in the heavens but on the ground it could happen in a short period of time. Many dreams have shown the Man-child born and immediately start speaking and then start walking, all in a brief amount of time.

This 9/23/17 sign only points to the birth, which in Jesus' case as a type, was a relatively unknown happening to the people of God at that time. Only a few knew about this birth and to the rest it wasn't an earth shaking event. Since the things that have been are the things that shall be the birth of the Man-child ministry will be mostly unknown. From this birth of Jupiter, the King of Heavenly Bodies, representing Jesus manifested in the David/Man-child reformer body, goes to Scorpios with Saturn close and possibly the red dragon of Planet X showing up, representing the devil or Dragon, which attempted to kill Jesus but failed just as it attempts to devour the Man-child in our day but fails. (BTW the satanic, baby sacrificing, left wing, deep state is attempting to bring about a coup both soft and then hard to remove Trump from office so remember your "authority over all the power of the enemy" and cast this dragon down in Jesus name. As we know Trump is running in a parallel to the Man-child.)

From there Jupiter is caught up to the throne, which will be very public yet misunderstood to most. This is represented as a type when Jesus was anointed and began a powerful ministry of healing, deliverance and signs and wonders. And so it will be with the Man-child but with one added and very spectacular aspect, that of judgment. The Lamb is Coming as a Lion. Jesus started His ministry speak the first half of {Isa.61:2} to proclaim the year of Jehovah's favor, - but left out the last part of this verse/proclamation for His ministry in our day - and the day of vengeance of our God... The rest of the verse shows that Jesus in the larger Man-child will reward the sealed Bride at this time - to comfort all that mourn; {3} to appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness.

So you see 9/23/17 represents only a point on this timeline that may not be noticed whenever the sign is manifested, on 9/23 or sometime after.

The Bible speaks of two comings of the Lord. Epiphaneia is the coming of the Lord in His people and is not speaking of a certain time and day except for the Man-child's manifestation to the throne of dominion. It is as the anointing of the Holy Spirit that Jesus received to start His ministry. Most of the world and Christianity will not recognize this as a coming of the Lord. A few will see this and know what is happening. Apostate Christianity will either see it and have their eyes open or they will fight against this and persecute those righteous who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Some are saying of this sign that we will not know the day or the hour of his coming as though this is the Lord coming to rapture his people, which it is not. Not knowing the day or hour is spoken of the Lord's coming as the Parousia in the air after the tribulation in the beginning of The Day of the Lord. The Day of the Lord is a year after the seven years of the tribulation to punish those who have mistreated His people in the tribulation. It is the wrath of God. Isaiah 34:8} For Jehovah hath a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion. Before this day the Sun and Moon are darkened. {Acts 2:20} The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day. And before the Sun and moon are darkened the seven days of the tribulation come. This is clearly seen in Jesus' teaching. {Matthew 24:37} And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. There were 7 days of tribulation before the ship with the righteous lifted off in the beginning of [40 days into] the flood of wrath which lasted for one of their years. All this can be seen clearly in our free e-book, Hidden Manna for the End Times.

{Matthew 24:29} But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light (At the beginning of the Day of the Lord), and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: {30} and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [Here He receives His saints and leads them against the wicked]. {31} And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. {32} Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh; {33} even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors. {34} Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. {35} Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. {36} But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only. {37} And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. {38} For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, {39} and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man. {40} Then shall two men be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: {41} two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left. {42} Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.

{Matthew 25:11} Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. {12} But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. {13} Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour. {14} For it is as when a man, going into another country, called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. {15} And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one; to each according to his several ability; and he went on his journey. {16} Straightway he that received the five talents went and traded with them, and made other five talents. {17} In like manner he also that received the two gained other two. {18} But he that received the one went away and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. {19} Now after a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and maketh a reckoning with them.

{Zechariah 14:1} Behold, a day of Jehovah cometh, when thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. {2} For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. {3} Then shall Jehovah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. {4} And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the mount of Olives shall be cleft in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. {5} And ye shall flee by the valley of my mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azel; yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah; and Jehovah my God shall come, and all the holy ones with thee. {6} And it shall come to pass in that day, that there shall not be light; the bright ones shall withdraw themselves: {7} but it shall be one day which is known unto Jehovah; not day, and not night; but it shall come to pass, that at evening time there shall be light.

{Mark.13:24} But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, {25} and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken. {26} And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory. {27} And then shall he send forth the angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. {28} Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh; {29} even so ye also, when ye see these things coming to pass, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors. {30} Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished. {31} Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. {32} But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. {33} Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

{Acts 1:6} They therefore, when they were come together, asked him, saying, Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? {7} And he said unto them, It is not for you to know times or seasons, which the Father hath set within His own authority. {8} But ye shall receive power, when the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and ye shall be my witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. {9} And when he had said these things, as they were looking, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. {10} And while they were looking stedfastly into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; {11} who also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye looking into heaven? this Jesus, who was received up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye beheld him going into heaven.

{I Thessalonians 5:1} But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that aught be written unto you. {2} For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. {3} When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall in no wise escape. {4} But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief: {5} for ye are all sons of light, and sons of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness; {6} so then let us not sleep, as do the rest, but let us watch and be sober. {7} For they that sleep sleep in the night: and they that are drunken are drunken in the night. {8} But let us, since we are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation. {9} For God appointed us not into wrath, but unto the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, {10} who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

{2 Peter 3:3} knowing this first, that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery, walking after their own lusts, {4} and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. {5} For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth compacted out of water and amidst water, by the word of God; {6} by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: {7} but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. {8} But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. {9} The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. {10} But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

{Rev.16:12} And the sixth poured out his bowl upon the great river, the river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way might by made ready for the kings that come from the sunrising. {13} And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, as it were frogs: {14} for they are spirits of demons, working signs; which go forth unto the kings of the whole world, to gather them together unto the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. {15} (Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.) {16} And they gathered them together into the place which is called in Hebrew Har-Magedon.

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