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Unleavened Bread Ministries with David Eells

23 Minutes in Hell
Bill Wiese

Click the picture below to watch Bill's testimony (73 minutes/74.2MB)


It is an honor to be here. This whole trip has been such a blessing to us. Like Hal said, we are in the Real estate business. We don't do this for a living. We don't do this for money. We just know that God has told us to go and tell the world about his love for people, and the place He doesn't want any of His creation to go to. So that's why we're here. So, for the sake of time, I'm going to shorten this testimony and just get right in to it.

But at first I want to address a couple things. Questions that might be in your mind. The first question that would be in mine if I was listening to me, I would say, "How do you know it wasn't just a dream that you had?" "Bad dream?" A couple points to make. First of all, I had left my body. I saw my body when I returned laying on the floor. So I know for sure it was an out of body experience. Some Christians have said, "Oh a Christian can't leave his body". But that's not true, In 2 Corinth 12:2 when Paul was caught up into the third heaven, He said, " whether in the body , or out of the body I do not know". So if he didn't know that must mean it's possible. And also he said in verse 1 that it was a vision so I believe this comes under the classification of a vision. And in Job 7:14 it says, "thou scarest me with dreams and terrifieth me with visions". So this is definitely what the Lord did, terrified me through a vision. Also this returning from this it took me a year to calm down and become like a normal person again. I was so upset and traumatized from the fear that it's changed my whole viewpoint on how to witness and how much to appreciate what God saved us from. And so-

I'll ask my wife to come up for a minute so that she could just share with you for a minute on when she found me in the living room because I don't remember that part. So I want her to say a few words. Thank you Hon. It was about 3:23 in the morning when I woke up. I just remember that because I looked at our digital clock and Bill I noticed was not next to me and I heard screaming coming from our living room. I proceeded to go down the hallway. I found my husband in a way I'd never seen him before. If anyone gets to know Bill, he's very very conservative by nature. Very calm, you know a professional man. He's just not the type to get excited or real emotional over anything unless it's God at times. But, anyway, I saw him there traumatized, literally traumatized holding his skull, holding his head between his hands and crying out and screaming. He as in a fetal position on our living room floor. I didn't know what to do, I thought he was having a heart attack. I just started to pray and he cried out and said, "Pray that the Lord would take this out of my mind!" The Lord took me to hell. I feel like my body is dying, I can't handle this. So I proceeded to pray over him, and maybe ten to twenty minute time frame in there he began to calm down. He was literally in a traumatized state. Like someone who went to Vietnam and has a reoccurrence or a horrible car accident where they're reliving it. It was not just someone who had had a bad dream and woke up. So I just wanted to testify of that. I'm so blessed with a good women. I'm really grateful to God. I've been married for four years, know here for six, and it's been the best six years of my life. I have to say, so praise God. First of all --

I wanted to find out when got back from this experience if there's any body in the bible who has ever experienced hell. So I began research and I found, and I listen to a Chuck Messler a lot, he's a bible teacher across the nation, real scholar and he had said also that Jonah had experienced hell. In Jonah 2:2 it says, "in hell he cried out". In Jonah 2:6 he says, " the earth with her bars was about me forever, yet thou has brought up my life from corruption". So at least there was somebody in the bible that experienced hell. Jonah. I also wanted to find out, because I was raised early days of Calvary Chapel that any spiritual experience that you would go through should already be in the Word of God. So I knew that if what I experienced was true, it would already be there in the words. So I began to research and I found over 400 that depicted everything I saw, heard, felt, everything to do with hell. It's already in the bible so whatever I'm telling you it's already there. I'll make reference to some of the scriptures as we go. Can't quote all 400, but some of them at least. I also found out there were about 14 other people that had that had experienced some portion of hell. Most of them were near death experiences. People in the hospital dying and were brought back and so forth.

Prison and Demons: So to get right in to it, quickly: My wife and I was at the Sunday night prayer meeting, that we always attend, with our pastors, and we went home like any other normal night, and went to bed, and about 3:00 o'clock in the morning, I was taken, I did not know how I got there, until I returned, the Lord explained, but I was just found myself like dropped into a prison cell, just like a regular prison cell like you imagine, with rough huge stones walls and bars, (on the door), and I didn't know where I was yet, all I knew was it was extremely, terrible hot, it was so hot, I couldn't believe, that I was alive, in this cell, I felt like I should be disintegrated with this heat, but I was still alive, it was light in the room for a little wile, and I believe the Lord present for me better to see the scenery, but then it got dark after about a minute, anyway in Isaiah 24:22 they say: "And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, - "

Proverbs 7:27 "they shall go down to hell in the chambers of death"

Chambers means: In a room. So part of Hell has prisons cells and chambers and pits of fire, and big arrears of fire, so I was just in a prison cell at this time and then there is a scripture in:

Jonah 2:6 - , the earth with her bars was about me for ever. -

And Job 17:16 They shall go down to the bars of the pit, -

So again everything I saw was in: "The Word". [The Bible] Stones are talked about in Isaiah 14:19

I found my self in the cell, and these 4 creatures was in the cell, with me, and I didn't know they were demon at the time because I went there as a unsaved person, God took it out of my mind, that I was a Christian, I didn't understand why, but He explained it to me on the way back, which I'll get to, so these creature, I didn't realize what they were, but they were enormous, they were 12 or 13 feet tall, one you will see in the video, and the one I'll go and describe for you, ugly enough, one of the people, that give his testimony, he saw the same demon, that I did, so you will see what one actual looked like, is a really good picture of him in the video, It will be the one where the guy are drugged up to the bars of hell, just see it's Kenneth Hagan testimony, and, anyway they were all scaly, this one was all scale all over their body, and giant jaws -?claws sticking out with huge teeth and sunken eyes, and they were just enormous, and the other one was,-didn't looked like this at all, but it was razor sharp like thins all over and long arms out of proportion feed, everything was deform and twisted and out of proportion, out of symmetry no symmetry one arm longer and one shorter and just odd looking creatures, horrible, horrible looking things, and they were blaspheming God, the whole time they were cursing God, I wonder why are they cursing God, why are they hating God so much? And then they turn their attention to me, and I felt the same hatreds as they had for God, they had for me also, and again I thought: Why do they hate me, I haven't done anything to them, but they hated me with a hatred, that I have never had experience on earth, way beyond what man has the ability to hate with, they absolute hated me, and I knew they were signed to me to torture me, there were things that I am going to say, that I don't know how I knew, It is like in Hell your senses are keener, you are just aware of more than our physical bodies here, I could - I was aware of distances, and I could -I was aware of time, and so forth, much more that you are here, so one of the things I knew was, that they were assigned to me, to torture me forever at this place, and oh I knew I was laying on the floor in the cell and I had absolute no strength in the body, and I wonder, why can I hardly move, what is wrong with me, and I was really veered of that and I tried to work out and I was just aware of no strength, and I was helpless laying there and the one Demon just grab me and pick me up and threw me in to the wall like a glass like he pick me up like a glass, that was as light I was, or how strong he was, and throw me in to the wall, and every bone in my body just broke, and was about to break, and I felt pain, and I just began to lay on the floor there, and I was crying out for mercy, but these creature don't have any mercy at all absolute no mercy, the one pick me up, and the other one with his razor-sharp claws and things, and he just shredded my flesh right of, he just tore it of and have absolute no care or what so ever for this body that God so wonderful made it was just so a hatreds that was so intense against me that I was so in wonder why am I alive why are I living through this, I don't understand why am I not dead, and the flesh just hung in ribbons and there was no water or blood just flesh hanging, and because life is in the blood, there is no life in hell, and there is no water in Hell and I Isaiah 14:9-10 is says; 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming, {it stirred up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.}

14:10 {All they shall speak and say unto thee,} They shall say: Art thou also become weak as we? {Art thou become like unto us?}

Psalms 88:4 I am counted with them that go down into the pit: I am as a man that hath no strength:

And we know that the devil does have strength, even in the scriptures were there was a demonic act running through the graveyard and it says:


5:1 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

5:2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

5:3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

5:4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

5:5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.

5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

5:7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

5:8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

5:10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

5:11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.

5:12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.

5:13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

5:14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.

5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

5:16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.

5:17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.

5:18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.

5:19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.

5:20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

They couldn't bind him he had break the chains in pieces, that was just a man with a demonic strength, these demon had, and I also understood they had about 1000 times the strength that a man, so even if I had my natural strength I couldn't have fought them up anyway, so there was absolutely - I was at their mercy which they don't have any mercy

The Demons runs your life in Hell: The smell of these demons and the smell in Hell was so atrocious, I can't even describe it to you, but I will try, it is like, if you took, there was a smell of burning flesh of sulfur there was a smell of the demons were like an open sore, puttered and rotten meat or bad eggs, milk and everything you can imagine take it, - time of 1000 again and put it up to your nose and just breath that in. It was so toxin, that it would kill you, if you were here in this body you would die and I wonder, why am I living again through this smell, it is so horrendous, but again you don't die, you have to endure it.

The profanities, that they were cursing out God, that are mention also in Ezekiel 22-26 I am profaned among them "The Word" [The Bible] saying: Ezekiel 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Profaning degraded vulgar language and blasphemies.

The torment they were doing on me was mention in Deuteronomy 32:22-24. For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

32:23. I will heap mischief's upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.

32:24. They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

So there are teeth of beasts are upon you

2 Samuel 22:6 talks about: The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;

and in Micah 3:2 there is an interested scripture where the philistines, who hated the Israelites says: The Philistines, Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;

That was what they did to the Jewish people, so that was in natural what the did, but where did they get that idea from, that comes from Hell, that is what the Demons do.

And the mercy? There is only mercy in Heaven, mercy comes from God, and the devil has no knowledge of any kind of mercy, he is totally against that.

Psalms 36:5 Thy mercy, O Lord, is in the heavens; and thy faithfulness reached unto the clouds.

It is defiantly not in Hell. And in:

Psalms 74:20 it says: Have respect unto the covenant: for the dark places of the earth are full of the habitations of cruelty. It is just a cruel miserable horrible place, that you have to endure, you have to endure all these things, another thing was: God has made mankind the highest form of creation, he has made us the highest form of His creation and these demons was the lowest form of creation and as man we work hard to get ahead in life we better our self we study and all the things we do and here in Hell your life is run by the demons these creatures who has a zero IQ absolute ignorant creatures all they know is hatred for God hatred for you and torture, and they run your life and you can't do anything about it and there is scriptures about that, the humiliation you have to endure that this thing is going to run my life, I can't stop it.

In Isaiah 5:14 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honorable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.

5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiced, shall descend into it.

5:15 And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:

Isaiah 57:9 And thou wentest to the king with ointment, and didst increase thy perfumes, and didst send thy messengers far off, and didst debase thyself even unto hell.

57:10 Thou art wearied in the greatness of thy way; yet saidst thou not, There is no hope: thou hast found the life of thine hand; therefore thou wast not grieved.

57:11 And of whom hast thou been afraid or feared, that thou hast lied, and hast not remembered me, nor laid it to thy heart? have not I held my peace even of old, and thou fearest me not?

57:12 I will declare thy righteousness, and thy works; for they shall not profit thee.

57:13 When thou criest, let thy companies deliver thee; but the wind shall carry them all away; vanity shall take them: but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain;

57:14 And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people.

57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

57:16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.

Ezekiel 32:24 There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living; yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit.

And on and on it go, but that was a horrible thing to have to let your life run by these creatures that have no mercy for you whatsoever

The screaming in Hell: I was lying in the cell and it went dark, pitch, pitch black. I mean a darkness I have never ever felt before and I have been down in caves and things way down in iron mines and so forth and Arizona, and there was a blackness that you couldn't even imagine. I manage to crawl out, somehow I was able to crawl and they let me apparently and I remember where the door was and so I crawled towards it and I felt my way, and I got outside the cell, and I looked one direction, all black, and all I heard was screams people billions of peoples screaming in this place, I knew there was billions, and it was so laud, if you ever had heard someone screamed before it is so annoying to hear a scream, you know, well if you hear billion of people screaming you can't imagine how it effect your mind, you just - you can't stand it, you just hold your ears it is so loud it is penetrating you can't get away from the screams and the fear that overcomes you is unbelievable, because it is dominated by fear there is no present of God in this place, so you have to endure the fear and the torment and the blackness you can't see anything you can't even see now what is coming up against you and the scripture talks about the darkness

Psalms 88:6 Thou hast laid me in the lowest pit, in darkness, in the deeps.

Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

And there is a darkness which may be felt and in Exodus 10:21 And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt. You can feel this darkness, and the fear thou, I got a tell you, was so powerful, grips you, it is like, if you have ever seen some scary movie, where the fear jumps up in your throat that second, if you can take that time at least a thousand and hold it there, that is how you stay all the time, and, and I know something about fear, I, at one point I use to surf when I was young, you know, kid, I stood there actually once in a while, but when I was really young we were in Coco Florida surfing and there was a school (group) of sharks coming around me and an about 9 foot Tiger shark came up and bid my board right in a half and it grab me by the leg and pulled me down, and so my leg was in the mouth of this giant shark, and I wasn't a Christian then, it was before I was even sawed and all the sudden it let me go, I know God let that open that sharks mouth, but for a few moment the fear that comes into you is absolute overwhelming I don't know if anybody ever saw Jaws, and, and remember that old movie, but that was nothing compared actually going through it, the fear was terrifying and the guy next to me just a couple of feed away a shark ripped his leg right of and they drag him up on the beach and blood everywhere, and he was screaming and had no leg, and so I understand fear, but that fear was nothing absolute nothing compared to the fear I felt in Hell no comparing at all and I think that was one of the greatest fearing we could expiring on earth so these are some of the things we had to endure in hell he says in Isaiah 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleet from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

And Ted Couple on a presentation he did on "Night Line" a year and a half ago, he visited some prison in our country, and he spend the night there and he couldn't believe how loud there was and he couldn't sleep everybody screaming at the top of their lungs he said that was what he said on TV and he was choked of how people just scream and wining all night long so even in our earthly prisons people are screaming how much more in Hell and in Job 18:14 it says the wicked ways of man, persons who reject the Lord

18:14 His confidence shall be rooted out of his tabernacle, and it shall bring him to the king of terrors. The devil is certainly the King of terrors and I

Desolate in Hell: I was outside now the cell and I looked this direction and as I looked this way I could see there was flames of fire and about 10 miles away from me, I knew it was 10 miles and it was about 3 miles across this pit of fire so the flames lit up the skyline enough to see the landscape of hell just a little bit that way, the darkness was so heavy it just eat up any light, but it was enough to see just something of the skyline and it was all brown desolate I mean absolute not one green leaf not anything of life or any kind, just stone and dirt and black sky just smog in the skylight and flames was leaving really high so we could see it enough and, and there was a scripture in Deuteronomy 21:23 And that the whole land thereof is brimstone, and salt, and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, nor any grass growth therein, like the overthrow of Sodom, and Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim, which the Lord overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath:

There is no life whatsoever in Hell, it is so strange to be in a world where there is no life like we enjoy here threes and fresh air non of that it is absolute all dead and death there and I talked about the heat

The heat was so intense you can even describe it and it says in Deuteronomy 32:24. They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. In Jude 7 and in Psalm 11:6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.

That is what is going on in Hell, it is so hot, all these things should kill you but you don't die from that, you had to keep enduring all these things, I want a peace of mind to get away from the screams to get out of there, like when you want to go home at night when to day you have it has been a ruff day you just want a piece of mind or there you endured all the screaming and torment. And you never ever get away with it get away with it, get away from it ever and in Isaiah 57:21 it says: There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

You are also naked in Hell it is just an other thing to have to endure shame thing there is scriptures all around in the scriptures about it shame in the pit Ezekiel 32:24 There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living; yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit. And Job 26:6 Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.

That means God can see into Hell so it is observable to Him but also you are naked in Hell just another thing you have to go through and there is no water in hell at all. No water. There's no humidity in the air and no water of any kind. It is so dry you are desperate for a drop of water. Just one. Just like the scripture says in Luke 16:23-24, " the rich man said that in hell he lifted up his eyes being in torment and seeing Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom, and he cried and said father Abraham have mercy on me and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water a cool my tongue for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, "son remember", and then he went on to talk about his brothers and so forth, but a couple points in this scripture. He wanted him to just dip the tip of his finger in water just to get one drop. That would have been precious, one drop, but you never ever get a drop. It's hard to imaging how dry your mouth is. If you can imaging doing a marathon run through Death Valley and having cotton in your mouth and staying there for days, and it just continues like that. Just dry. Absolute, desperate for a drop of water. Another thing is this scripture quickly, it revealed to me was, we knew there was a great gulf fixed between them, in hell between paradise and Hades, and the rich man saw Abraham a great far off. In the natural how could he recognize Lazarus and Abraham. First of all he never met Abraham and then to see someone that far away you wouldn't really know who they were. But it's just certain things you know in hell. You understand. Like I was saying, the depths, how far away and so forth. One of the demons grabbed me a drug me back into the cell and began all these torments again. Which I really hate to talk about that part because I don't like to have to re-live the torment. They began to crush my skull. One demon grabbed me and tried to crush my head. I was screaming and begging for mercy, and no mercy. About this time they each grabbed an arm and a leg and were about to tear off my legs and my arms. I go, I can't endure this, I can't endure this. And something grabbed me all of the sudden and pulled me out of this cell. I know it was the Lord, but then I didn't know that. I was there as an unsaved person so I didn't know these things. I just went there as if I had never accepted the Lord. I was placed over next to the fire that I had seen. I was standing along side that pit. I was beneath a cavern, like a giant cave, tunnel going up. Along side the fire

I could see through the flames just enough to see bodies, people in the fire screaming, screaming for mercy. Burning in this place. And I knew I didn't want to go in there. The pain I'd endured already was bad enough but the heat and the flame I knew was worse. These people were begging to get out and there were these big creatures lined all around the edge of it and as the people crawled up trying to get out they would be shoved back in to the fire and not allowed out. I thought, "Oh", this place is so horrible, so horrible and horrendous. All this is going on at the same time. You're thirsty, you're hungry, and you're exhausted. You don't get to sleep in hell either. You need sleep just as you would now. Your body needs sleep. Rev 14:11 says, " and the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever, and they have no rest day nor night". You never get to sleep. You can imagine how that is, never sleeping. The water again, Zephaniah 9:11, "the prisoners out of the pit where there is no water". Absolutely no water in hell. I knew that hell's location is in the center of the earth. That's were it's at, in the center of the earth. I understood that I was about 3700 miles deep in the earth. We know that the earth's diameter is 8000 miles. Half way would be about 4000. I was about 3700 miles down and in Ephesians 4:9 it says, "Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth". Numbers 16:32 says", the earth opened her mouth and swallowed them up and they went down alive into the pit and the earth closed upon them. That's were hell is right now. Later hell and death will be cast into the lake of fire and it says that will be cast into outer darkness. That's after Judgment Day, but right now it is in the earth. I was along side this pit of fire and I saw all these demons all lined up along the walls. All sizes and shapes of every kind of deformed, ugly creature you can imagine. There were twisted, deformed creatures. Huge ones, small ones, there were giant spiders. Hugh spiders this big. Rats and snakes and worms, because the bible talks about worms that cover thee (Isaiah 14:11). There are all kind of abominable creatures everywhere and they seem to be chained to the walls. I wondered why these things were chained to the walls. I didn't understand that, but there's a scripture on that where Jude 6 says, "and the angles which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness until the judgment of the great day". And so maybe that's what I saw, I don't know but that is what it appeared to be. I was glad cause I didn't want them to get to me. They all hated me with a passion. That was another thing I didn't understand was they weren't just creatures, they had a hatred towards mankind. So I was glad they were chained to the walls.

I began to ascend up this pit, this tunnel and leave the flames so it got darker but I could see all these demons along the walls and they had such awesome power. I thought, who could fight off these creatures. No one could fight these things. But yet, that fear was so overwhelming, I just couldn't even stand the tolerating this fear. The worse thing in hell. The worse thing. Worst than the torments and everything else was I understood, first of all that there was life going on up here on the earth and that people up here, most people, had no idea that this world exist down here. They don't even know this is a real world down here and there's billions of people suffering and begging for one chance, if they had an opportunity to get out, but they never get a chance to get out, and being mad at themselves for not taking the opportunity to have received Jesus. That you are stuck there for ever. This is the worse thing about hell was that there was absolutely no hope of ever getting out. I understood that. I grasped eternity. I could understand eternity. Here we can't quite can't get a hold of it. I understood it. But I knew I would be there for ever, and ever, and ever and have no hope of getting out. I thought about my wife. I could never get to my wife. I've always told her if we were ever separated, any kind of earthquake or something horrible, I said I'll get to you. I will find you. I'll get to you if we're ever apart. I couldn't get to her. I could never see her again. She would never have any idea were I was, and I just could never ever talk to her again. That thought just absolutely bothered me terribly to not be able to talk to her, get to her, and for her not to know where I was, and have no hope in this place to ever get out. You understand you never get out of here, ever. See on earth there's always hope. Even people in concentration camps had a hope of getting out, or dying at least, to get out of it. But we've never experienced a totally hopeless situation. In Isaiah 38:18 it says, "they shall go down into the pit and can not hope for thy truth". No hope, and the truth is Jesus. He is the truth.

About this time we're going up a tunnel, and I'm just in absolute fear and hopelessly lost, and fearing these demons, all of the sudden, just all of the sudden Jesus showed up. Praise you Lord, Jesus showed up. This bright light lit up the place. I only saw His outline, the outline of a man. I couldn't see his face, it was so bright, I just looked into this light and saw His outline. And I just fell on my knees and collapsed. I couldn't do anything but worship Him. I was so grateful that one second ago I was lost for ever and now all of the sudden I'm out of this place because I already had known Jesus. Those people can't get out, but because I was already saved. I knew and understood there was not way out of this place. Only by Jesus. He is the only way to keep from going to this place. In Rev 1:6 it says John, when he went to heaven, it says and he saw Jesus, that His countenance was as the sun that shineth in his strength, and when I saw Him I fell at His feet as a dead man. That's just how I did. I fell at his feet like a dead man. Now you'll think you'd want to ask Him a million questions, but when you're there all you can do is worship Him, and praise His holy Name , and thank Him for what He saved us from. When I got my composure, at least enough to start forming thoughts. I thought about, I said to the Lord, I don't even think I asked Him. I just thought it and He answered me. I said, "Lord why did you send me to this place?" "Why did you send me here". He said to me because people do not believe that this place exists. He said even some of my own people do not believe this place is real. I was shocked at that statement. I thought every Christian has got to believe in hell. But not everyone believes in a literal burning hell. I said Lord why did you pick me? And He didn't answer me on that question.

I have no idea why He picked me to go there. I'm the least likely to go to this place. My wife and I hate evil movies. We hate anything bad. I don't even like the summer time, much less heat. Like that! It's filthy. There's no order. It's all chaos and disorder and discuss, and I love everything orderly and excellence and I don't know, but he didn't answer me on that one. He said to me, He said "Go tell them that I hate this place". "That it's not my desire for one of my creation to go to this place, Not one". " I never made this for man". "This was made for the devil and his angels". "You have to go and tell them!" "I've given you a mouth, you go and tell them". And I thought to myself, but Lord, I thought, they're not going to believe me. They're going to think I'm crazy or had a bad dream. I mean wouldn't you think that? And I thought those thoughts. Ant the Lord answered me and He said, "It's not your job to convince them". "It's the Holy Spirits job!" "You just go and tell them!" And it was just inside, "Yes Sir!" Absolutely, I have to go and tell them. You can't worry and fear what man's going to think of you, You just have to go and do it and let God do the rest. Amen? And I said, "Lord, why did they hate me so much?" "Why did these creatures hate me?" He said, "Because you're made in my image, and they hate me". You know the devil can't do anything against God. He can't hurt God. Per Say, but he can hurt His creation. That's why the devil hates man kind, and deceives him, and into taking him into hell, and inflicts diseases upon him. Anything he can do to hurt God's creation. And-----

About this time God flooded me with His thoughts. I was flooded with thoughts of...I...He let me touch a piece of His heart of how much He loves mankind. Unbelievable, I couldn't even take it. It was so overbearing. The love He has for man, you can't take it in this body. You know, we love our wives, our children, how much you love them? Well that love we have can't even be compared to the love God has for us. His love is infinitely greater that our love and our ability. And it's just the same as it says in Eph 3:19, "to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge". It goes so far past knowledge, you can't even grasps it. I couldn't believe how He loved mankind. That He would die for just one person to not go to this place. And it hurt Him so much to see one of His creation going to this place. It pains the Lord, he weeps to see one person going. And I felt so bad for the Lord. I felt like His heart, He let me just touch a piece of His heart to where he felt such sadness for His creation going there. And I thought I've got to go out and witness and take every last breath I have and go tell the world about Jesus. how good He is. I mean, we have the gospel. It's good news. It's good news, and the world doesn't know. They have to be told. You know? We have to share knowledge. People just have lack of knowledge in this area. God wants us to share with them how good He is, and how He hates this place.

He said to me also, He said, "Tell them I am coming very, very soon". And He said it again, "Tell them I'm coming very, very soon". Now, I think, why didn't I say to him, "What do you mean Lord?" "What soon do you ..?" I mean right, that's how we think. But I didn't ask. You just don't think to ask those things then. You just want to worship him so much you can't even believe to be around.....The peace of God that comes over you being next to Him is unexplainable. I've bee in anointed like you all have but there is no comparison to the love and the peace of God you feel being next to Him. And then when I looked up and I saw those demons on the wall that were so ferocious, they looked like ants on the wall. They just looked like ants. They were still big, but with the power of God next to you, all of God's creative power, those ants looked like....I mean they looked like ants on the wall. I couldn't get over it. I thought, "Lord they're just ants!" and He said, "you just have to bind them and cast them out in my name". I thought boy the power He's given the church. These things that were ferocious were no match for a devil without Jesus. None. They're ferocious, but with Him, they are nothing. Just a boldness rose up in me right then when I saw these I felt like, "you creatures were the ones torturing me wanting to tear me apart?? Come on! Come on now! Maybe a little bit of the flesh rose up or something and come on you know, Jesus get em. We went above the earths surface and we had to keep going up the earth's surface. We went above cause we were still in a tunnel. I couldn't see it any more but it was like a whirlwind, a giant whirlwind we were in. We kept going up. We had to go up it, to get out of it, apparently. When we got up to the top of it, I looked down at the earth and it was about this high. The curve of the earth was like that. It's awesome to look back at the earth. I know God allowed that for me. he could have left that tunnel any which way He wanted. He knew in my heart as a kid I always wanted to see what the earth looked like from space. Maybe I watched too much Star Trek or something, you know? I just thought it would be really neat to see the earth, and to see it hung on nothing. Like the bible says. It says in Job 26:7, "He hangeth the earth upon nothing". You look and you think, What's holding this thing up? What's making it turn so perfectly? God is in such control. The power of God that flooded me, that He has, it's awesome. He has so much power. Every single thing is in His control. Not a hair on you head falls to the ground He doesn't know about. not a bird hits the ground He doesn't know about. I was flooded with these thoughts. God has so much power. It...I was overwhelm me with that. There's scripture, it says in Isaiah 40:22, "The Lord sits upon the circle of the earth". There I was upon the circle of the earth. I even though, Lord...how come.....before Christopher Columbus they could have read that scripture and known the earth was round. You know? People wondered, they thought it was flat, you know? And anyway as we came back down we passed through the shield, I knew we were passing through the heat shield that's around the earth. I just knew it, and I even thought,,,,stupid thought, here we are with God and I thought, " I wonder how He's going to go through that shield?" You know how in space they have to penetrate it just at the perfect angle? We went through it with no problem what so ever. No surprise! I'm sure the Lord must have rolled His eyes,,,like you know.... I can handle that one. There is a scripture is Psalm 47:9 that says, "for the shields of the earth belong to God". He is in control of everything. Everything. I just didn't want Him to leave. I just wanted to be in His presence. We were coming up fast on California. Just coming real fast upon the,,,,we moving so quick, and came up to our house. And I looked and I could see right through the roof of our house. And I could see myself laying on the floor. This has really hit me strong right here because....

and I saw my body laying there and I thought, "That can't be me, I'm here, this is me!" You know, you've never seen two of yourself. You know, here I was laying there and I though, "That's not really me". And that scripture that Paul's says we're just in a tent. That hit me so strong I thought that's just a tent, that's nothing. That's temporary. This is the real me. This is what eternity is all about. That life that we worry that we....It hit me also about that vapor, that life is just a vapor in James 4:14 it talks about and how short this life is. It's short. A hundred years if you live, it's nothing. It goes up like a vapor. And I though, we've go to live for God. What we do now here counts for eternity. We've got to witness. We've got to get out there and save the lost. We can't worry about all these little pettily things that we all get so tied up and hung up on. We need to really get out there and preach the gospel and the good news, because this is over with quick. But I saw my body laying there and I thought....It was just as if you got out of your car and looked back at your car. That's not you, it's your car. It just gets you around. That's how it looked to me. It just gets me around here on the earth, but this is the real me. And I thought, Lord don't leave, don't leave. I just want to stay with you for a while, but He left. I can up to my body, and something pulled me back into my body. Like I was sucked back into my nose or my mouth. Right then when He left, that's when all the fear, the torture, and the torment came back into my mind, because it says in the bible, "Perfect love cast off fear". So I was next to perfect love all that time, so that left me. But when He left, all of the sudden all of the fear and the horrors of hell entered my mind. I couldn't stand it, I couldn't stand it...I was screaming. I was in agony. I couldn't, I couldn't live it. I knew that this body was not capable of withstanding that kind of fear. You can't hold up under that kind of pressure. Your body isn't strong enough. So that's when I prayed and I was able to pray, "Take it out of my mind". In the natural you would have had to go through all kind of probably counseling to get through this kind of trauma, but God took it out, instantly took it out. The trauma. He left the memory, but took the trauma and the fear out. I was so grateful. Anyway after this so many things happened, I wish we had time to go into that God confirmed what happened to me.

If there's someone here tonight, today that doesn't know the Lord; you have to ask yourself a question. You have to say, "Do I believe these people, that what they saw is real?" All these people and myself? But more importantly, what the word of God says about hell. Do you want to take that chance and say, "No I don't believe it". "I don't believe that's real". You have to throw out all the word of God, and all of us trying to tell you. Are you willing to take that chance with your whole eternity? That would seem pretty foolish to me to absolutely...... naa I'm going to no even... You can't let the devil deceive you. That big creature in the end there that was laughing. That's how the devil would be when you got to hell. He would laugh because you had an opportunity to receive the Lord and you miss it. But once you're there it's no turning back. There's absolutely no turning back. You would be there lost for ever.......

and you know you might be saying to yourself. "I'm pretty good". "I'm a pretty good person". "I don't deserve that place". And you probably are pretty good compared to most people. But that's not what you need to compare to. We need to compare ourselves to God's standard. His standard is so much higher than ours. He says in the word that if you lie once, just once in your whole life, that makes you a liar. If you've stole one thing in your life, a paper clip, a couple minutes of your boss's time, anything, just once. That made you a thief. If you were angry without cause. If you didn't forgive someone that did something wrong against you. If you lusted after a women. Any of these things, if you just did it one time, that makes you a sinner, and you can't make it to heaven. So you see all of us come short. We all fall short and can't get there on our own works. Titus 3:5 says, "Not by works of righteousness that we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us". Amen, so it depends on how you compare. If you compare,,,. It's like a woman that saw a flock of sheep on a hill, and they were all so white a beautiful against this hill. She said, "Look at those white sheep, look how beautiful they look, so white". She went to bed and overnight it snowed. She looked up the next morning and saw the sheep and they all looked dull and dingy and gray compared to the white snow. So we need to compare our self to God and His standard is way higher than ours. So we have need of a savior. We can't get there on our own. God made it: A free gift.

He said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth , and the life". No man come unto the Father but by me. He's the only way out of this place. So if there's anyone here who doesn't know the Lord. Anyone here who really has never asked Jesus to be Lord and savior of your life. You never really came to that point where you really had to voice it out your own mouth and say it. And ask Him to come into your life, would you stand up? If there's anybody here would you stand up now, for Jesus? Don't let the devil. That creature laugh at you. Stand up now, when you have the chance, cause you don't know how much time we have. You don't know that you might die tomorrow, and end up in that place. Let me tell you, that place, just the heat alone would be horrible to endure. Those people that we saw jump out of the towers. Hold hands and jump. How horrible that must have been. You know if you've ever been up high and looked down, to jump would be unthinkable. But they had to face that heat. And that was only for about five seconds it would have incinerated them and that was about two thousand degrees. Scientist say that in the center of the earth is about twelve thousand degrees. So you have top endure that for eternity. If you're willing to go through that, that would be awfully foolish. Now is the time....

The bible's real plan, we are sinners, and who ever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Jesus said if you will confess me before men, publicly, then I will turn and confess your name before my heavenly Father and the Holy angels. But if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father. I want to ask you to do something. If you've never publicly. I mean in front of other people. If you've never publicly declared Jesus Christ is my Savior. I made Him the Lord of my life. Or if you're unsure whether heaven is you eternal home. If you've never publicly declared Jesus as your Lord. Or you're unsure that you're going to heaven. Jesus hung naked on a cross in a market place. He hung there for you, He endured your shame......

If you'll pray this prayer from the depths of your heart, God will save your soul, and He'll give you an opportunity in the not to distant future for you to make it public. Pray with us, especially those who are in the congregation and know you should. " God I believe in You", say it out loud. You are my Creator. I am a sinner. I sinned in many points. Willfully, and unconsciously. I've fallen short. I've missed the mark. I'm stained with sin. Jesus I believe in you. You are the eternal Son of God. You're the Lamb of God. Who takes away the sin of the world. Who takes away my sin. I believe you died on a cross. Shading your innocent blood for my guilty soul. I believe you were buried. On the third day you arose. You are alive forever more. I call you my Lord. I call you my Savior. I give you my life. I will love you. Serve you. The rest of my days. I belong to you. The good parts. The bad parts. The sinful parts. All my plans. All my dreams. I give everything to you. Thy will by done in me. I believe I'm saved. Not by good works, but by faith. By trust in you. In Jesus I pray. Amen. >>>>> LOUD, LONG APPLAUSE<<<<<

That response is perfectly appropriate. The bible says heaven has no greater joy than one sinner repent. And we only know a pale example of what goes on in heaven when it witnesses what you've done today. I want to address the rest of you then I'm going to drop out of this. I want to give an alter call for those of us who've witnessed this. We're really most fortunate to hear brother Bill say what he experienced. I'm going to issue a challenge to you and I really would warn you, don't accept this unless you're ready for some activity of the Spirit in you lives. I'm not trying to be flippant, I'm just saying don't make this your confession unless you really mean it, and here's what it is. It's got two parts. One, I will no longer fear the face of man. The biggest single inhibitor to us acting like you really know there's a heaven and there's a hell. I will no longer fear the face of man. Two, I will talk to everyone I know, the rest of my life about Jesus, and heaven, and hell. That is a hug commitment. Every person I know who reached people for Christ came to these two points of commitment. Why else have a relationship with anyone if not to share with them the glorious good news that saves their soul from hell. It's a felony in the Spirit to know someone, to converse with them, to entertain yourselves with them, to enjoy their presence, and never tell them without Christ their going to hell. Every relationship is to be a doorway to communicate the truth that you've witnessed today. That's what's logical. If you're not ready to do that, I understand. But if you're ready to make those two commitments. If you agree, say this to God, "God I believe in you". "I believe in Jesus your Son". "Your precious Holy Spirit". "I receive the challenge of the hour". "I declare of myself". "This is my confession". "I will no longer fear the face of man". "I will not concern myself with the opinion of man". "My reputation is of no importance". "I hate the fear of man". "I will tell everyone I know the rest of my life about you Lord Jesus". "About heaven and a place called hell". "I step over the line". "I will no longer be indifferent, preoccupied, not caring". "I accept your word". "I will not fear, and I will speak up". "This is my confession to Almighty God". Raise up your army God. All over this city, nation, and world. A people who have rightly discerned the times in which they live. A people who have come to understand eternity is the next moment away. To see with clarity into the glory of heaven and the horrors of hell. And order their priorities to obey God. Now grace God. They've made a bold confession God. Without your grace it will not come to past. We believe your grace is sufficient to do what the word of God tells us to do. Grace, Grace, Grace upon your people here in Jesus' name.

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