Fruit of Christ Revealed in Us
Claire Pienaar - 10/31/19 (David’s notes in red)
I dreamed my family got together, in a new city and my mom, dad and I together with Riaan and my children were rejoicing! (The heavenly City of Jerusalem, the Bride, being born from above.)
We we’re walking down white paved streets and were talking about how big our new house would be. We had seen many brides and their bridegrooms pass down the streets, and we were rejoicing! (This represents the appearing or manifestation of the Bride bodies and their Man-child bodies as it was with Jesus and His disciples who John declared were the groom and bride. The Bride will be chosen and move to the Big House of the King as did Esther.) We were so happy and everywhere, everything looked new and good and people were smiling and there were only blondes around (Symbolizing only those submitted to the Son who are in the Bride) .
We were in America because we were close to where my sister and her husband live (they are currently unsaved, actively against the Lord). They joined us after we saw the procession of brides and bridegrooms, (A great revival among family members will come after the manifestation of the Bride and Man-child bodies who will begin this revival.) (God’s family will come together and will witness many of the called out ones birthing the fruit of Christ. Perhaps this is a sign of a great revival?)
We had reservations at a tea shop on a corner street (Coming together in the cornerstone [The spiritual building where Jesus is the chief corner stone.]) - These reservations had to be booked in advance. (They are chosen from the foundation of the world to be there.). (This is what the prayer of faith does. I’ve SEEN it with many miracles and testimonies of people coming to know the Lord because of the saints’ prayer and fasting. My own parents found their way back to God after years, almost two decades, of backsliding and sinful living, through this process!. In this dream, the tea room reminded me of another restaurant that Riaan and I used to go to for smoothies back in South Africa called “Pure”, except the decor was ALL white now instead of green and white (representing sanctification or purity of leaving pagan, fleshly, Babylonish practices in the past.).
The shop was called “The Big Reveal” (Jesus’ being revealed in his first-fruits Man-child and Bride?). The shop specialized in hosting “baby reveal parties”. (Jesus is birthed first in the Man-child and Bride and from them the revival will start as Jesus is born in the Body of Christ through them. Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I am again in travail until Christ be formed in you. Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation waiteth for the revealing of the sons of God. Which is also the revealing of the Son of God in them. Col 1:26 even the mystery which hath been hid for ages and generations: but now hath it been manifested (revealed) to his saints, 27 to whom God was pleased to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:)
My sister did not want to go in because she’s vowed never to have children. (Represents the young church that does not want to bear the fruit of the Word. There is no self-sacrifice, they are living in the flesh and sin)(And they do not believe that they are called to come into the image of Christ. 2Co 3:18 But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord the Spirit.) But we were celebrating (I think it was my dad’s 70th birthday - that number seems important to me.) (The body of Israel, a type of the Church, and David, a spiritual dad, were 70 in the year of this dream.)
So my younger sister, Candice, stood at the door, and we sat down at little independent tables; each person had their own plush royal blue wing back chair, and their own little white round table on which to eat and place refreshments. (This represents Esther’s feast after she was chosen to be the Bride. Those who have not yet put on Christ “stand at the door” but have not entered into this elite company.) (This represents the "little sister” of the Bride in SoS, whom she raises up for the King. And the Virgins who the Queen Bride raises up in Psalm 45. ). (While we are all part of the body, our walk is our own and it’s our own responsibility to fill ourselves up on the Bread of Life and Living Water of the Word.) (The seed that makes us pregnant with the life of Christ is His word, which brings us into the image of Christ 30, 60,100 fold, birthing Him in us. “He that doeth the will of my Father is my mother.")
I checked out the meanings of my sister and her husband’s names on a Google search. It’s uncanny how it ties in with this spiritual meaning: Candice is derived from the New Testament in Acts, from the greek word “kandake” which represented the Ethiopian queens and means “queen mother”. This points to the apostate church. However, when I read the story in Acts, even the “queen mother’s” subjects are not exempt from hearing and receiving the truth and being changed into Christ’s likeness through faith and baptism:
Acts 8:26-36 But an angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza: the same is desert. And he arose and went: and behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was over all her treasure, who had come to Jerusalem to worship; and he was returning and sitting in his chariot, and was reading the prophet Isaiah. And the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. And Philip ran to him, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? And he said, How can I, except some one shall guide me? And he besought Philip to come up and sit with him. Now the passage of the scripture which he was reading was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; And as a lamb before his shearer is dumb, So he openeth not his mouth: In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: His generation who shall declare? For his life is taken from the earth. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other? And Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this scripture, preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on the way, they came unto a certain water; and the eunuch saith, Behold, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip; and the eunuch saw him no more, for he went on his way rejoicing.
(As a side note, my sister’s first experience in a church as a young adult, was in the Greek Orthodox Church because one of her boyfriends was a part of a family who attended it. I believe an unbelieving spirit entered her then, because she’s never been the same since). (Apostate Christianity does not yet believe in the good news. It inoculates many against this wonderful truth of the Gospel.)
Her husband, has a name that means no-nonsense, career-driven and one that is seeking new appreciation. This possibly means that he has forgotten the one, true appreciator - His creator God! He seeks the praise of men, not God. It also tells me that the Babylonish spirit of acquiring wealth and status in career is strong at play in many people who need salvation. Mark 7:21-23 For from within, out of the heart of men, evil thoughts proceed, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, covetings, wickednesses, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, railing, pride, foolishness: all these evil things proceed from within, and defile the man.
Candice’s husband, seemed more pleasant than usual and open to being there (generally he appears to be uncomfortable to mix with our family). On the right side of the restaurant, there was a giant screen the length of the entire wall, and it was an informative piece about the purpose and nature of the reveal parties. He and Candice stood at the door and watched this movie play, like a promotional movie about “The Big Reveal”. It was a stunning presentation with excellent graphics, top-class actors and voice-overs. The screen kind of melted into reality as we watched the joy of welcoming little babies into the world. It was beautiful! The tag line was “choose your reveal today!” (God wants to reveal himself (His fruit, Jesus) in those today who are lost. He wants baby Jesus’ word and spirit in them so they can grow). (Why is it so important for Jesus, the Word, to manifest in us? Because as Jesus said, "No one hath ascended into heaven but he that decended out of Heaven”. (Jesus is the spiritual Father and Adam of the Born Again creation. All of His matured Children look like Him in His original Biblical Likeness. 2Co 3:18 But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord the Spirit. (These glories are 30, 60, 100 fold, and Star Moon and Sun glories.
At this point, my parents and Riaan and my kids were watching another family welcome their “reveal” to their daughter and her husband and she walked out of the shop with white balloons (the Holy Spirit) and they were bubbling over with joy and happiness! It was so wonderful!
I saw it from a distance, but I went up to my sisters husband and asked him if he wanted that happiness too? He got up on a white four-legged white painted wooden chair (representing the thought and mind of western thinking; it’s man-made and wood is not very strong. He was above and over me (pride), but he could not look me in the eye. It was like he was surveying the escape route and found none! He he. You cant make yourself an idol, because who will worship you when you’re on the alter? You are made to worship and glorify God but if you make yourself either your own god, or fashion gods for yourself, it’s an awkward, uncomfortable position to sustain in the long term. You can paint the chair white but the paint will chip off eventually with wear and tear and you’ll see the imperfect wood underneath. It reminds me of “make for yourselves no graven images” and of the man who makes his own idol in Isaiah 44). Isaiah 44:9-18 They that fashion a graven image are all of them vanity; and the things that they delight in shall not profit; and their own witnesses see not, nor know: that they may be put to shame. Who hath fashioned a god, or molten an image that is profitable for nothing? Behold, all his fellows shall be put to shame; and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; they shall fear, they shall be put to shame together. Also: Deuteronomy 5:7-10 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I, Jehovah, thy God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me; and showing lovingkindness unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
I was looking up at him now and I said, “You dont think you need a saviour. You think your works will save you. I know, I used to think I was my own saviour too”. Come down and try; try to imagine how wretched you are when you read the bible and then you’ll see that you need a saviour. He came down off the chair, and we went into another room next to the tea shop, where I gave Him the bible and he read John 3 (be born again). There was nothing in the room - it felt like a prison. I said to him, “Now you’re in your own prison, and you can be set free by Jesus because he’s revealed himself to you. You must choose Him. Do you understand, is it clear?”. He started crying …and chose Jesus, and his head came up from the bible WET! He quoted John 3:16 to me, and I started crying and laughing. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
I ran to my sister who was still in the doorway of the teashop, and said, “Look, he’s chosen Jesus. Now you’re free to choose Jesus too because you can follow his lead! You are now going to be equally yoked!” She struggled and shifted nervously and said, “I’m not sure that I can have a baby like that, I’m not what you think I am”. I hugged her, told her that babies are easy to handle, it’s when they grow up that it gets hairy. But she’ll grow up too and I’ll be right there to help her. (That’s where the teachings/fellowship within the body/testimonies/deliverance and all that good stuff comes in to help believers prepare for growing Christ in them).
I was so excited I woke up and woke Riaan up and told him “I dreamed he got saved!!!” Then he went back to sleep, but I couldn’t, because I was so excited! I’ve been praying in faith for 3 years for this man to come to know the Lord.
I opened my bible by faith at random and received this: Job 3:2-3 And Job answered and said: Let the day perish wherein I was born (The old man), And the night which said, There is a man-child conceived (“Christ in you the hope of glory”).
I dreamed many years ago that Our Father had prepared a place for my sister, and she did not want it. When I sent it on to David the first time, he replied with “keep praying in faith”. This current dream serves as a confirmation that many of those we (the saints) have been praying for are going to come to the knowledge of the truth by the Holy Spirit and they are going to be saved in the name of Jesus Christ. Praise God from whom all blessings flow!
Is it Gifts or Fruit that Qualifies Us For the Kingdom?
Questions sent - 1/9/20 (David’s notes in red)
Questions sent to me: I will be brief. I have for a number of years been doing my own bible study in N.T. on different topics. My Present topic is "Do Not Be Deceived” (Considering your other question below it is good to notice that this saying was always spoken by God to His people and warning them to depart from personal sin or they will miss the Kingdom. 1Co 6:9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 15:33 Be not deceived: Evil companionships corrupt good morals. Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (I.e. we create our own future by sowing good or bad) Jas 1:14-16 but each man is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then the lust, when it hath conceived, beareth sin: and the sin, when it is fullgrown, bringeth forth death. 16 Be not deceived, my beloved brethren. This points out that no respect of man, gifts of the Spirit, nor any good works will make us acceptable in the Kingdom if in our personal life we are immoral.)
According to this teaching by Jesus on the Mount to the multitudes it is possible for a person to do the works of Jesus and still be rejected from entering the kingdom of heaven. Mat 7:20-23 Therefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (They were entering into the ministry of gifts and signs and wonders but neglected the crucified life that they may bear fruit, which is entering the Kingdom. Gifts do not get us in the Kingdom, fruit does. We are warned to warn these people that if they continue in their sins none of their gifts of prophecy, casting out demons, or mighty works will be remembered. Gifts do not get us in the Kingdom, but fruit does. Eze 3:20 Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thy hand.)
That Matthew seven text is difficult to put into some kind of context to clearly see what He meant. He would not have said it if it could not be clearly understood. So, what is He saying?
(This is clear, It is not works done by Jesus through us, but fruit that gets us into the Kingdom. James warned “brethren” to not just be hearers of the Word but doers or they will deceive themselves. The Word must be obeyed to manifest the salvation of our soul. Jas 1:19-24 Ye know this, my beloved brethren. But let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21 Wherefore putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deluding your own selves. 23 For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a mirror: 24 for he beholdeth himself, and goeth away, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Judas was among the disciples doing miracles just like the rest of them or they would have recognized him long before the Last Supper. But he was not bearing fruit of the Word through Jesus because he was a thief, easily offended, and a traitor, as are many today. I have seen many fall away into reprobation after working signs. Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few chosen. Chosen is translated from the Greek: eklectos or elect. Paul said in 2Ti 1:9 who saved us, and called us … Notice: First we get saved and then called meaning invited to partake of the benefits of the kingdom, but then only those who bear fruit are chosen or elect. The Lord is coming to choose the fruit and pick it. The rest of the “called” who do not bear fruit get plowed under. The tares grow up with the wheat "in the Kingdom" but they dont bear fruit and in the end time they are bundled together to be burned as is happening now. Then the wheat shines in the Kingdom.
Jud 1:5 Now I desire to put you in remembrance, though ye know all things once for all, that the Lord, having saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. (Notice in this text that they got saved and then went through testing in the wilderness to see if they would continue in that faith and if not they were destroyed. AFTER salvation of ones spirit everyone will be tested/tempted to see if they will obey the Word to manifest salvation of the soul, which is your mind, will, and emotions. Here is the test: Jas 1:2-4 Count it all joy, my brethren, when ye fall into manifold temptations; 3 knowing that the proving of your faith worketh patience. 4 And let patience have its perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, lacking in nothing. … 12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation; for when he hath been approved, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord promised to them that love him.
1Ti 6:11-12 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of the faith, lay hold on the life eternal, whereunto thou wast called, and didst confess the good confession in the sight of many witnesses. (When a person of God is saved by faith it is "accounted as righteousness” until righteousness is manifested. Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. As long as one abides in faith that Jesus took away their sins and gave us His life they are safe. Faith is the substance of the thing hoped for. The manifestation of their salvation comes as they are fighting the good fight of faith, which is actually “laying hold on life eternal" in the salvation of the soul. Those saved in soul manifest, 30, 60, 100 fold fruit of the word. This is proven by their obedience to the Word as they are accounted to be righteous by faith. Their faith brings the power of God to manifest Him in them. These that endure in their faith to bear fruit are the truly saved according to Jesus. The other three out of the four groups in the parable of the sower who received the Word did not bear fruit and were not ultimately saved.
Our soul is manifestly saved through our obedience to the Word, which power to do come from their faith in what Jesus did at the cross. 1Pe 1:5-9 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials, (The testing of the faith) 7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ: 8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. The end of our faith is the salvation of the soul, not the beginning of our faith, which is the salvation of our spirit.
All Christians have a born again spirit but not all have born that fruit in their soul that it becomes born again. Observe here the rebirth of the soul. 1Pe 1:21-2:2 who through him are believers in God, that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; so that your faith and hope might be in God. 22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth unto unfeigned love of the brethren, love one another from the heart fervently: 23 having been begotten [or born] again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which liveth and abideth. 24 For, All flesh is as grass, And all the glory thereof as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower falleth: 25 But the word of the Lord abideth for ever. (The Word manifested in us is eternal life) And this is the word of good tidings which was preached unto you. 2:1 Putting away therefore all wickedness, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 2 as newborn babes, long for the spiritual milk which is without guile, that ye may grow thereby unto salvation. Notice that we as Christians grow "unto salvation" by the incorruptible Word manifested in our soul; our mind will and emotions. Meanwhile our faith is accounted as righteousness.
I do have some thoughts but several events in N.T. I have trouble with. Meaning of fruit, seven sons of Sceva, etc. Simply using the name of Jesus regardless of your status; can this at God's discretion bring results?
Yes. (Act 19:13-16 But certain also of the strolling Jews, exorcists, took upon them to name over them that had the evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, I adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. 14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, a chief priest, who did this. (The exorcists obviously had some success before this instance. Notice that it doesnt say “in Jesus” but “by Jesus”. This is just like the people in your original text in Mat 17:22 who said "by thy name”. But we are commanded to cast demons out “in the name of Jesus”. These were not in Jesus, they were just using Jesus, and evidently this scared some demons out. God permitted it up to a point.) 15 And the evil spirit answered and said unto them, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? 16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and mastered both of them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
Yes, the gifts work by faith even when one is not growing in fruit or is sometimes not even saved. They work because others need their benefits and God loves His people and wants to meet their needs even if a qualified person is not available. If someone in need comes in faith to a corrupt person God can meet their needs of healing and deliverance for their sake and for the sake of those looking on that they would know the power of the name.
But also Christians may be gifted and have power but in their personal life they are not putting to death their flesh so they are rejected by God even with all their gifts and good works. The greatest Apostle said in 1Co 9:24-27 Know ye not that they that run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? ("One" here means, those abide in Christ and are one in Him. Those hating their brother dont have a chance for as Jesus said if they don't forgive they are not forgiven) Even so run; that ye may attain. 25 And every man that striveth in the games exerciseth self-control in all things. Now they do it to receive a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, as not uncertainly; so fight I, as not beating the air: 27 but I buffet my body, and bring it into bondage: lest by any means, after that I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected. (Notice the race is to die to self and bear the fruit of the Word before our time is up. If the greatest apostle can be lost after all his good works because he didn't live the crucified life and bear the fruit of Christ, so can we.
2Pe 1:1-11 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and the Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace to you and peace be multiplied in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; 3 seeing that his divine power hath granted unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that called us by his own glory and virtue; 4 whereby he hath granted unto us his precious and exceeding great promises; that through these ye may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust. 5 Yea, and for this very cause adding on your part all diligence, in your faith supply virtue; and in your virtue knowledge; 6 and in your knowledge self-control; and in your self-control patience; and in your patience godliness; 7 and in your godliness brotherly kindness; and in your brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, they make you to be not idle nor unfruitful unto the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he that lacketh these things is blind, seeing only what is near, having forgotten the cleansing from his old sins. 10 Wherefore, brethren, give the more diligence to make your calling and election sure (We may know we are called but we dont know we are elect if we have not borne the fruit of Christ through the Word): for if ye do these things, ye shall never stumble: 11 for thus shall be richly supplied unto you the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.